Happy Friday Cougs, and welcome to the end of another week. It is supposed to be a fantastic weekend weather-wise around the great Northwest, so here's hoping you get out of the house and soak it all in while it lasts!
There is a lot of "stuff" out there that surfaced the last day or so, points of interest and such. You know, lists, predictions, etc, pretty much the best off-season "fodder" a fan of the sport might enjoy this time of year. So we might as well round it all up for you, link style? Here we go:
So the big list of NCAA coaches was posted by the Sporting News! Yep, all coaches from 1 (Nick Saban, Alabama) to 124 (Charley Molnar, UMass) can be found here.
Yeah, there are some easy choices near the top. I mean who's going to argue against Nick Saban? Did you know he's an amazing 28-4 in the big, bad SEC the last four years!? That's amazingly good. But of course, while the whole list is interesting, we focus on the Pac-12:
1) Chip Kelly (6th overall)
2) Mike Leach (17th overall)
3) Lane Kiffin (20th overall)
4) Kyle Whittingham (21st overall)
5) Steve Sarkisian (30th overall)
6) David Shaw (32nd overall)
7) Rich Rod (39th overall)
8) Mike Riley (55th overall)
9) Jeff Tedford (57th overall)
10) Jim Mora (68th ovearll)
11) Todd Graham (75th overall)
12) Jon Embree (106th overall)
You can likely find the reactions all over Twitter, the web, etc, after the lists were pumped out yesterday. And you can probably predict the reaction of fans of the Pac-12 teams? You know, towards the top of the list it's like "Hey, you know these Sporting News guys, they sure know their stuff. Looks about right."
Meanwhile those towards the bottom of the list are all "The Sporting News is A BUNCH OF MORONS!" And on and on it goes. Such is the life of fandom in 2012, and lists are just that - lists. They are the opinion of a couple of writers, and that's really it.
That said? OK, I'll admit it - it's cool to see Mike Leach at #17.
And I did like what they had to say towards the end of their little write-up on Leach:
Trending: Up. Football fans around the country will actually be paying attention to the Cougars now. Yo ho ho, we’ll have a bottle of whatever Leach is drinking.
So the list, does it mean anything? Will it help the team win a bunch more games under Leach? Will it help Leach recruit? No, of course not. It's highly doubtful Leach would walk into a living room, waving the Sporting News article in someone's face, "See!? SEE!!?! I'm #17!!" But it's good off-season fodder, I guess. I'm sure UW fans hate it that their guy is #30, or Cal fans are flipping out over Jeff Tedford coming in at #9 in the conference. But it is what it is.
Anyone wonder where Paul Wulff would have landed on this list, had he somehow survived to coach again? Not to trample on his WSU coaching record, but I think triple digits might have been about right. Maybe nestled somewhere around Mike Price at #104, and Jon Embree at #106?
Speaking of Paul Wulff, there was a rumor from Cougfan's message boards last night that CPW has landed a non-paid coaching gig with the San Francisco 49ers. There hasn't been any confirmation - at least not yet - but if true, that sounds like a nice landing spot for Wulff. Maybe he is destined to be an offensive assistant in the NFL, helping coach up an offensive line, something like that? But it would be nice if the story is true, and we wish him luck.
Moving on, the amazing Bud Withers has a decent look at the Pac-12 North. Withers trudged through the conference, post-spring style, and took a look at every team in the Pac-12 (some really great details on his recaps, including this one on WSU). While you may not be exactly thrilled with his selection of WSU coming in at #5, his reasoning is sound. The offense looks strong, the D......well, we'll see.
So the Gameday vote is now over. And unless they found some voting machines in a ditch somewhere last night with about 100,000+ votes for WSU, well, it doesn't look like the Cougs will be hosting a Gameday commercial. Per Teddy Football, the Cougs were buried in third place, about 100K behind the leaders. But don't hang your heads in shame, Cougs. An excellent showing from the Crimson faithful, once again showing strong passion for all-things-WSU!
That's it for today. Get out and enjoy the weekend weather, and as always, GO COUGS!
Interesting list. I found myself a little surprised about Peterson being ranked number 2. Seems high to me. I mean, is he really better than Urban? Also nice to see the Cougs picking up another 6 ft 11inch Aussie. But bad news about Peters. Bone is feeling more and more like Eastman every day.
@Sutra Yeah, Petersen is great but #2 great? BSU fans say sure, but Urban Meyer seems like the better choice. But Petersen is great!
@SeanHawkins @SutraWhat coach couldn't win with the recruits Urban Myers, Lane Kiffen and Nick Saben get????...My question is, whey are they rated so highly as coaches?....Their true strength is in recruiting....Peterson of Boise State coaches better than them all, with much less rated talent coming in! Kudos to the Pertersons, Leaches and Wulffs of the coaching World.
@MyTwoCents2 @LucasNurmi @Longball Texas, UCLA, and Florida State (the whole ACC, actually) think it's rather difficult to win lots of games, even with top talent. It's one thing to recruit top talent, and it's another thing to win with it. Thus, I agree that Urban should be at #2. All he does is WIN.
Think about it for a moment...The parity of NBA basketball teams is much more equal than any situation in college sports, with the recent exception of what took place last year with LeBron/Chris/Dwade joining forces in Miama...All the Professional teams have equal opportunity to get the next best player...Not so in college sports.
I would LOVE to see College Football select players just like the NBA or NFL....then, we'd really see which coaches are truly great coaches, and NOT just great recruiters...As it is now, college atheletics is all about recruiting, not coaching.
Utah beating Alabama in the Bowl game two years ago was a classic example of David and Goliath... a team with only 1 4-star athlete on its roster kicked the crap out of Alabama who had all 4 and 5-star athletes on it's roster....Are you understanding what I'm trying to say?
And yes, in my opinion, Phil Jackson is one of the greatest basketball coaches of all time.... and the Miami Heat, thus far, with LeBron/Chris/Dwade are the worse coached team in the NBA....
@MyTwoCents2 @Longball If you win National Championships (Saban has three IIRC) you sit atop the list. It doesn't matter what kinda talent you have, if you win that many championships (all withing the last decade) you deserve to be at the top of the list.
So should Phil Jackson not be viewed as one of the top two coaches in the history of the NBA (depends on if you're asking a Lakers or Celtics fan) since he coached MJ, Pippen, Shaq and Kobe?
@Longball Get a grip!! My point was that when a coach/school consistently recruits 6-12 High School All-American players EVERY year, how is it that they can lose even 1 game????....Give some credit to the coaches that are lucky to get one three star athlete per year, and end up beating schools like USC, GA, Alabama, Florida, Oregon, Texas, OK etc....
.A mediocre coach could win in any sport if loaded to the gills with super talent.!!!
But give the Kiffens and Sabens credit for being super salesmen when it comes to recruiting.....It doesn't make them an excellent coach - It makes them an excellent RECRUITER.
@SeanHawkins @Sutra People in FLA aren't super thrilled with the state of the program Meyer left behind, plus Peterson has never pulled the whole "I'm retired, oh wait, im back, oh Im retired again" thing.
I think both Whittingham and Rich Rod would move up on my list, just ahead of Kiffin, based on actual accomplishments.
@Sutra @Longball But they are probably still super thrilled with their NCAA championships? It's Florida/SEC land, and winning is greater than, well, everything else. You know, who cares about those pesky arrests-n-such when you are busy winning titles?? :) I agree on Petersen though, he is a great coach who has beaten some really good teams and coaches on the list. But it is easy to put Saban, Petersen, Meyer in the top 5, that much is clear.
@Longball @SeanHawkins Fair enough about the Fla. Aftermath, but Urban has done it at more than one place. And he'll do it again at Ohio State in the very near future.
Also, If true the Wulff rumor would be fantastic. Would love to see him teamed up with Captain comeback. Nice work, Sean.