Shake It Up
Written by Coug-A-Sutra   
Monday, 18 January 2010 17:38

Hello Followers. Hope you’ve had a nice, long weekend. I know I sure did.

Fortunately for all of us, our young Cougies also were able to gain some solace from our fortunes the past weekend. But that sure didn’t stop Ken Bone and others from exploring the possibility of a line-up change.



Don’t know about you, but count this Sutra in as a guy who believes that a trip to the post-season demands a major shake-up. Want to know how I would re-structure our lineup and rotations? Then read on.

Followers, outside of the “we can’t start” and “we lose big leads between the 10 and 5 minute marks of the second half” stuff, there are several much BIGGER challenges facing our young Cougs both now and in the future. Here they are in a nutshell:

1) We are undersized.
2) We can’t rebound even after we’ve forced missed shots (see Oregon game).
3) We have no consistent offensive presence in the post.
4) Our stars are playing too much and are wearing down.

Within these problems are a couple of obvious points:

1) We are playing guys at the 4 spot who are not power forwards, and even worse, don’t have baseline games that allow them to out-quick guys down low.

2) Most of our rotations revolve aroudn  a three guard lineup with only two guards who are perimeter threats.

What this means practically is as follows: Because we can’t score down low, other teams are able to clog the outer reaches of the paint. This makes driving difficult for guys like Klay and Capers and it also allows other teams to have lots of guys that can contest our mid to long-range jumpers.  The result:  We tend to score in bunches, and when we do, its because of talent--not because we are getting great looks.

As a consequence, the central idea for my line-up change is based on two basic principles. The first is for us to get away from using Abe and Nick as power forwards, at least until the end of games and/or halves. By making that change, I think we are more apt to create weakside rebounding opportunities on offense and defense. The second is to find more creative ways to generate offense out of the three spot. By doing that, I think we will not only be able to take tremendous pressure off of Moore and Klay, I think we will also be able to take advantage of Capers’ biggest asset: His length and versatility.

With that all in mind, here is my idea for a basic rotation structure to use from here on out. Keep in mind, that this is meant to be a structure: Particular match-ups and game circumstance (foul trouble and score) can and should require tinkering by Bone and his staff.

20-15 minute mark 1st Half:

PG=Moore; SG=Klay; SF=Xavier; PF=Casto; C=Charlie

With Xavier on the floor, we start each game with offense, offense, offense. Xavier provides a triple threat for us starting games. He can drive, he can shoot, and he can set up the offense, allowing Moore to get in a groove without killing the ability of others to get touches. Meanwhile, by starting Casto at the 4, he will be able to roam the weakside glass on offense at the same time that he can more freely roam the paint to shot block against penetration as well as play weakside shot-blocker a la Ivory Clark back in the day. More offense + More rebounding = Better starts. Nuff said.

15-10 minute mark 1st Half:

PG=Capers; SG=Klay; SF=Nick; PF=Watson; C=Casto

Capers enters the game to guard the other team’s point guard. Hey Thomas, Wise, Randle, and Gerrity, you boys like the idea of chasing Moore around to start a game? How about getting a nice whiff of a 6-6 manchild in your grill for the next five minutes? In this second lineup, we go "big" in the front court. Nick is able to use all of his skills on the perimeter and on the baseline operating out of the 3 spot. Watson and Casto provide hops on the glass as well as speed to wear down other post players in transition. Meanwhile, other teams with small point guards either have to guard Klay (good luck with that) or Capers. In the later case, Nick sets up the offense and we run Capers on the low-block for post up opportunities. Oh yeah, try to keep Watson and Casto off the glass when other teams have to rotate for help.

10-5 Minute Mark 1st Half:

PG= Moore; SG=Xavier; SF=Capers; PF=Nick; C=Watson/Charlie

Klay gets a five minute blow in this stretch. Moore and Xavier provide plenty of offensive punch. Capers continues to play his baseline game and Nick provides a match-up problem for the other power forwards. Watson and Charlie continue to be overmanned just as they have been, but at this point, this is all about holding a game—not gaining ground.

5-0 Minute Mark 1st Half:

PG=Moore; SG=Klay; SF=Capers; PF=Casto; C=Charlie

With Klay and Moore in a groove at this point, we return to an offense that is perimeter and baseline focused at the same time that we have more presence and girth on the glass. Casto and Charlie provide increased size and length to run Klay off of screens. Ideally, Casto’s size on the weakside provide back-door screen opportunities for Capers to get some mammoth alley-oop dunks.

20-15 Minute Mark 2nd Half:

PG=Moore; SG=Klay; SF=Xavier; PF=Casto; C=Charlie

Start the second half the same way you start the first. Lots of offense, much more rebounding.

15-10 Minute Mark 2nd Half:

PG=Capers; SG=Xavier; SF=Nick; PF=Lodwick; C=Casto

In this five minute stretch, both Moore and Klay sit down so they are on the court and have energy for the last 10 minutes of the game. If other teams want to put a point on Xavier, I like his ability to break them down. Nick and Lodwick provide opportunities to spread the court so that Capers can post up down low. Casto stays in to help with the rebounding, which in this lineup has 4 guys on the court who are 6-6 or taller. This now become a stretch to hold the game as is.

10-5 Minute Mark 2nd Half:

PG=Moore; SG=Klay; SF=Capers; PF=Nick; C=Charlie/Watson

In this critical stretch, we play all of our regulars (less the Center spot) who now have been rested for five minutes. In the meantime, Casto sits on the bench resting his legs for the final five minute push. This lineup should be able to score. And with either Charlie or Watson fresh, we should have enough energy to hold down low.

5-3 Minute mark 2nd Half:

PG=Moore; SG=Klay; SF=Xavier; PF=Casto; C=Charlie/Watson
To close the game, we re-introduce the starting line up to promote both scoring and rebounding. In so doing, we allow both Nick and Capers to get needed blows for the final 3 minutes.

3-0 Minute Mark 2nd Half:

PG=Moore; SG=Klay; SF=Capers/Xavier; PF= Nick; C=Casto

To close the game, we go with the usual suspects who have closed games. If the team that was on the floor previously is in a groove, then we don’t need to tinker much. In fact, if we’re in a zone, we might even consider throwing Capers in at the 4. Regardless, at this point, no one on the team has played more than 30 minutes, so we should be able to finish. What is important in my mind is that by putting Xavier on the floor late, we’ve got another scorer that can make teams PAY for overplaying Klay and Moore. Of course, if they don’t, either of those two guys will eat other teams alive.

So, there you have it, Sutra’s cure-all line-up for the Cougs. Would there be growing pains? Sure. But we’re facing those anyway. However, with the addition of a more robust front line to go along with a more high-powered backcourt, I think that this team has both the shooting and the length to make this really, really interesting the rest of the way.

Now, can we please find a way—ANY WAY—to beat SC????

Enjoy your week.  And Go Cougs!

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written by LucasCoug, January 18, 2010
So I was looking at Pac 10 stats the other day, and was surprised to see that Nik leads the conference in 3 Pt FG%.
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written by Coug-A-Sutra, January 18, 2010
Yep, he was shooting at a 49% clip going into the CAL game. He's shown nice versatility this year and has played VERY nicely in the 4 spot. But, no one should forget that the guys is a classic wing player. So, instead of always set him up weakside on the baseline three, why not run him strong side left on the baseline???
Wow, that's a LOT of Charlie
written by Longball, January 18, 2010
There seems to be a widespread tendency to overreact to the performance Enquist had on Saturday. It started with Bud apparently giving him POG, and has taken on a life of its own since. He had a nice game and contributed, but lets not get carried away. As a player he has major limitations and i think his success says more about Stanford's weakness than it does about Charlie's ability. I would love as much as any Coug fan for us to have a viable 6'10" guy, but I still don't think we do.
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written by Coug-A-Sutra, January 18, 2010
No overreaction here at all, L.B. Whether its Watson or Charlie getting the minutes at the 5, we simply cannot get over the hump in this conference without changing the way that we're using resources at the 4 spot. Currently, all of our "bigs" are circulating in at the 5 and two of our threes (although Abe is a no-mans land guy in my view) are running in and out at the 4.

That has to change. We can't advance next year without developing that 4-5 slot THIS year. In my view, Casto is a bonafide 4. So, if we play him there, then we're only playing one guy out of position instead of 2 or 3!
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written by Longball, January 18, 2010
Im just not convinced that 15-30 minutes of Charlie Enquist on the floor makes us a better team, no matter the reasons. Help at the 5 may make us better, but I just don't think that kind of help is on our bench. If anything, at least play Bjornstad, a player with some upside who we will need to develop his game sooner, rather than later. But for any of our true Bigs, i can't imagine more than 10 minutes of floor time before they get seriously exposed. Unfortunately for Charlie we don't get to play Stanford every night.
Fair Enough
written by Coug-A-Sutra, January 18, 2010
Like I said at the beginning of the post, its about a rotation structure. Whether its Bjorn Bjornstad, Charlie, Watson, or Brian Paine's ghost, the point is to spend half the game sliding Casto to the 4 and using Capers as both a 1 and a 3.

Do that, you rest your stars (moore, klay), you don't lose anything from Nick, and you get larger bodies on the glass AND larger bodies for setting screens for Klay..

On top of that, and this is the other big deal, you allow Casto to be Casto. Like Ivory Clark, he's at his best when he's able to roam around the rim.

Give him more freedom, and we become a team that can provide several match-up problems while giving away, in this case, only ONE position.

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written by LucasCoug, January 19, 2010
I don't think 30 minutes of Charlie is a great idea either. However, at the same time, this is an area that we have had issues with. And with no solidified #5 on the roster and with a guard and small forward coming in in the next class, we don't have a ton of immediate choices.

I wouldn't be surprised if we do see 15-20 minutes of increased PT for Mr. Enquist.
not sure we need this kind of shakeup
written by BigWood, January 19, 2010
just a few counter-points.

1.) Casto isn't a PF. He's a C. He's an undersized C, but a C. When we tried him at the four last year, he generally clogged lanes for the wings, and the team had a harder time getting the ball into Aron. It only really worked when it was a counter to playing Caleb at the 4, who was able to spread the floor out much easier.

2.) Bone's offense really doesn't have anything to do with setting positions. The motion he runs more or less requires four people on the wings and your C in the middle. Do you really want Casto pulling 15 foot jumpers and trying to slash to the hoop? He has a hard enough time catching balls thrown into him in the post.

3.) Charlie is simply not ready. I think some people took a couple blocks he had on Saturday and determined he should now be in the mix. I should note that on Saturday, he checked in with about 11 minutes left in the 2nd half (around where you mentioned he should check back in) and we were up 17 points. He checked out six minutes later and we were up by two. That's not a coincidence.

4.) We're not a tournament team. I know people are still holding out hope, but we're not going to win 13 games in the Pac-10, which is about what it would need. I think we have a shot at the Pac-10 tournament as much as anyone, because we've proven we can beat good teams when Klay gets hot, but I think it's impractical to think we'll be one of the top 2-3 teams in the league this year. The personnel we need to compete is not on our bench.

5.) If you're giving minutes to whatever sloth is available just so we trot a center out there, that means you're taking away minutes from Nik, Capers and X, who have all performed at a much higher level than you can expect from sliding D to the PF slot.

6.) The two teams with legitimate centers are Oregon and ASU. We have a combined two games left against those teams. The other seven are also undersized, meaning we're not putting out our best lineup in order to counter someone else's already-undersized lineup.

Interesting read, but I don't think this would work at all. I think what we're doing is ok from a personnel standpoint. It's execution problems we've been having, and I don't know if they're fixable in this season with such a young team.
BigWood
written by LucasCoug, January 19, 2010
It wasn't Charlie's fault that the guards couldn't defend the perimeter. I thought he looked extremely good to be quite honest. He took passes in the lane better than Casto, and well per Bone's comments today mean that obviously some fans aren't the only ones to noticed his play.

From Cougfan:

He said another change could involve sophomore Charlie Enquist or freshman James Watson replacing sophomore DeAngelo Casto at center.
Nice comment BW
written by Coug-A-Sutra, January 19, 2010
Couldn't disagree with you more, BW, especially on point #1. But I love the thoughtfulness of your post. And to this point we both agree: We may get there, but right now it is difficult to see us improve enough to become a tournament team.

Re: Bone's motion offense. I agree with you simply because we've designed a system around a 4 guard/wing offense. The problem is that we don't have enough offense across the board to run it. The other problem: that type of wiener ball works great against Big Sky teams, but if you don't have a post presence on offense and ON THE GLASS you get killed in a major conference.

So, yeah, Charlie's not ready. And neither is Watson. And neither is Casto to play the 4 the way that he should.

But if you take at face value your point #4, then make the change now and prepare yourself to be able to shoot, rebound, and defend better next year.

Again, keeping in mind that the idea is to create a "structure" I can't see why playing TWO post guys for 8-10 more minutes a half is somehow so difficult.

Just sayin.'
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written by Longball, January 19, 2010
I am all for some minutes for Charlie, and especially more Watson, but your rotation above has him starting, with potential to play up to 30 minutes. I think that is what Big Wood and myself are reacting to. 8 more minutes/half split between Charlie and Watson seems fine to me, but honestly, no more. We started Charlie and played him a lot in Tempe and I did not like the results.
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written by Longball, January 19, 2010
That being said, Casto is definitely a power forward.
Final Disclaimer
written by Coug-A-Sutra, January 20, 2010
Because I don't have 1,000 hours to spend thinking about EXACT minutes, my point was to put forth a "structure" of how we could reconfigure our line up by position. to be sure, someone HAS to fill those slots and so I tried to fill them the best that I could. And, as we've seen, against certain match-ups, our current "small" line-up works just fine.

But again: I think it is reasonable to say that our entire front line is playing out of position. And for that reason, if we play ANYONE who has even a decent front court, we're in real trouble.

Finally, I'd like to see us start building toward something instead of finding ingenious ways to mask very real deficiencies.

GREAT comments, all!

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