Post-Signing Day Thoughts, WSU Football Blog Style
Written by Sean Hawkins   
Thursday, 04 February 2010 09:25


Happy post-signing day Coug Nation!  Don't know about you but I am pretty worn out after all the drama yesterday.  But despite some who got away (we'll get to that in a moment), one thing is pretty clear - those in "the know" are pretty happy about the way it all played out in Coug-ville.

In the end, the class came in rated 39th per Scout.com, 8th in the Pac-10, slightly ahead of Arizona.  A little lower than we thought it would finish, but still, in WSU history, one of the top-ranked classes in the modern age, only behind the 2004 class in national rating. 

Today, we thought we would weigh in on some post-signing day thoughts, where each of us would belly up with three things we are taking from yesterday.  So let's get to it....

Sean's Three Things:

1) Balance.  One thing that struck me yesterday, seeing the NLI's reported by Joe Nickell over at the official site (great job Joe), was that there really were a lot of areas covered by yesterday's event. 

I know, I know, a lot of people were/are wringing their hands over the lack of defensive tackles in this class.  Just one player, Kalafitoni Pole, is actually classified as a "true" defensive tackle.  But per Wulff's presser yesterday, there are a couple of reasons for this. 

First, WSU coaches weren't exactly thrilled as to the defensive tackles that were available to them, up and down the west coast, but especially in the areas they hit on the recruiting trail.  Yes, there were some good ones out there in the west, including Ricky Heimuli, who signed with Oregon, and Sione Potoa'e, who signed with UW, as well as some really good ones signed by UCLA.  But overall, the entire Pac-10 signed just 13 players who were classified as defensive tackles!  That doesn't take into consideration that some players will end up putting on weight and sliding inside, I mean it happens all the time.  But still, 13 tackles among 10 Pac-10 programs, that's what, about an average of a little more than one per team?  And programs like Stanford, Cal, and ASU, they didn't even sign one defensive tackle.  To me that backs up the idea that the quantity of d-tackles just wasn't there, and it's especially true for where WSU recruits. 

Second, per Wulff's presser, they are planning on signing one JC defensive tackle still for this year's class.  And just because they didn't sign said tackle yesterday doesn't mean they still can't find some value.  If you remember a few years ago, LB Kendrick Dunn and safety Alfonso Jackson both signed very late in the process, well after signing day, and both players basically started for their two years of eligibility.  So it is at least possible to get some help, still, even after signing day.

But back to the theme, balance.  Aside from signing a kicker or punter, they covered pretty much everywhere else.  QB, some running backs, five wideouts, three offensive linemen, a top-10 tight end, some good-looking linebackers, and lots of corners and safeties.  And in terms of the d-line, when you factor in that Brandon Rankin is already enrolled and will be unleashed this spring, AND some already-decent defensive line prospects like Justin Clayton and Jordan Pu-Robinson among others will be ready to go this year, you can see things coming together with the talent up front.

2) Good, but not great speed.  OK, it's not a HIGH end speed class.  But it is certainly fast, with reportedly up to 10 players running under a 4.7 40-time.  Again, it's not a class full of burners, but if you watched this program over the last two years, clearly lack of speed has been a big problem.  The overall level of speed is upped a notch with these new faces. 

But that said, I am especially excited about the defensive speed that they added yesterday! You've seen this team the last couple of years, you've seen a defense that has looked, well, "plodding" is the best way to say it.  Deone Bucannon, Brandon Golden, Tracy Clark, all these guys for the secondary are in the 4.5's or better.  We need to see the WSU defense get back some of it's swagger, and part of that is just getting kids to fly to the football on every single play.  It's a lot easier to do that when you have kids who can actually run!  When you mix these guys in with some of the redshirts from last year's class, guys like Nolan Washington and Anthony Carpenter and Jamal Atofau, all guys who are in that same 4.5 area or better, and you see the overall upgrade that they have performed in the back-end of the defense.  Hey, it's not world class, but it's definitely a start! 

3) I'm getting over the "ones who got away" - Yes, the coaches took some hits when Asante Cleveland and Maxx Forde pulled out at the last moment and decided to sign elsewhere.  Yes, it sucks, because Cleveland was a fast-rising prospect, a top-15 tight end who had an impressive highlight tape (so impressive, it got him a scholie to DA U!).  And Forde's loss sucks, well, because of the reported athleticism of the kid, as well as some good size and quickness, but also because he was a "legacy" with dad Brian Forde a Cougar tackling machine back in the 80's.  You LIKE to keep the bloodlines flowing if you can! 

But whatever.  If a kid wants to be elsewhere, so be it.  This sort of thing doesn't just happen at WSU folks.  It happens everywhere, and it happened yesterday, even at USC, UCLA, UW, you name it.  It's a rarity that any program keeps ALL their commits, from when they give their verbal pledge all the way through signing day.  And it will happen again, you can be sure of that.  Like it or not, and clearly Wulff hates it, but it's the way of the recruiting world!

And, on the flip side, yes, they lost a few.....but how about the recruiting story of C.J. Mizell?  What a good-looking player they grabbed from out of the blue.  6-3, 215, runs a 4.68 40 and is all over the field?  A top-5 nationally rated linebacker from last year who turned down a ton of SEC schools to sign with FSU, and today he's a Coug?  Thank you Devard Darling, in the once-a-Coug-always-a-Coug spirit!  And thank you for those in the know for keeping that quiet!  Based on everything that has been said and written about him, not only is he going to make it academically, but he's going to bring a level of speed and athleticism to the linebacker position that we just haven't seen in some time.

So there you go.  All in all, yesterday was a big step forward for this program.  Taking into consideration last year's class and now this year, and I believe it is safe to say that these coaches can recruit, even with a 3-22 record.  Welcome to all the new Cougs!

Read on for the rest of our "takes".....


LucasCoug's Three Things:

1) How our defense develops. The last two years we have signed Tracy Clark, Tyrone Duckett, Deone Bucannon, Brandon Golden, Damante Horton, Matt Simmons, Anthony Carpenter, Casey Locker, Nolan Washington, and Jamal Atofau.  Secondary Coach Chris Ball has developed a stable full of NFL DB's while a coach at Wazzu, and he must be drooling at the amount of talent oozing from our young DBs, plus the return of Chima, LeAndre Daniels, Terrance Hayward, Brandon Jones, Daniel Simmons, Jay Matthews and Aire Justin.  Now, do we have any play-makers?    Do I get bonus points for two liquid references in one sentence?

Our Linebacker depth includes Louis Bland, Alex Hoffman-Ellis, Darren Markle, CJ Mizell, Andre Barrington, Eric Oertel, Mike Ledgerwood, Sekope Kaufusi.  That looks like a lot of freakish, but raw athleticism.

The most important part of the equation is if the boys in the trenches will be able to keep opposing OLinemen off our LBs and DBs, and that is still a huge question.

2) Do we have any offensive playmakers? The last two years, the offense hasn't really clicked a whole lot.  Aside from the opening drive of the Stanford game, which was the first game last season, it seems like the offense never really got to string multiple plays together.  Granted there was little time to get the play off with the porous OLine play, but is anybody going to step up and become a threat that opposing defenses have to game plan for? 


My guesses are Gino Simone (heard he has put on some meat this off season) and Jared Karstetter.  Do any of the incoming offensive players even see the field this year?  Maybe Aaron Dunn and one or two of the WRs.

3) Wulff and Company can recruit. Even when the on field product is crap, they have still been able to go into living rooms across the country and sell families on Washington State University and themselves.  Just think of how many more living rooms they will be welcome in if we start to field a competitive product.

SUTRA'S TAKES

Hello Followers.  Hope you all are doing great.

First and foremost, I hope you all enjoyed the coverage that Sean provided yesterday.  Outside of the great work by Cougfan (its what they do), I thought that Sean provided the best coverage on the internets, including being the first to post Wulff's post-signing reaction.  Bravo!

Like LC and Sean, I have three main takes from yesterday's signing period.  They are:

1) Keep it all in perspective.

First of all, I think its important for all of us to recognize how incredibly remarkable this class is given the fact that we were basically a winless team last year.  Granted, we did manage to put a "1" in the win column.  But, those close to the program, including recruits, know that our "victory" over SMU was a colassal fluke--there is no way in holy hell that we should have won that game. So, to finish in front on ANYONE in recruiting (let alone garner a solid class) is nothing short of a true blue miracle.  And let us not forget that.  

So, congrats not only Paul Wulff, but recruiting master Jody Sears for all of the work they put in.  As Wulff said early on in his tenure, "no one will outwork us in recruiting."  They sure showed it this year.

2) Recruiting is about the future, but for us, the future is NOW.

For some programs, recruiting sets the stage for what the program will look like in the years to come.  But for us, this recruiting class had to do something to make us more competitive on the field NOW.  Cuz lets face it, if we follow the campaign of last year with another 2-10 type season that is replete with blowout losses, not only will we fail to match other teams in the conference in terms of recruiting next year, we're also going to be looking for another head football coach (which will lead to another scramble class that we abosolutely can ill afford).

So, for us this year, this class needed to do something to make us better right away.  For that reason, there is a lot to be REALLY excited about with this group--especially when you include our JC signees into the calculus. 

Obviously, our biggest problems last year revolved around the futile play of our offensive line and our horrible inability to put any pressure on the quarterback.  Now, thanks to Wulff and Co's efforts, we know have added needed depth--if not competence--to our offensive line. And, we've added Mr. Rankin to a more seasoned Travis Long at the DE.  The sum?  Better line play.  And that will make a better football team NOW.   (Remember, you don't get better practicing against Big Sky talent--you get better playing against Pac-10 talent in practice.  We're MUCH closer to that now).

3)  Hold your breath until June.

As Wulff noted in his interview yesterday, there are a few more signees that are in the wings.  Reportedly, one of those signees is a real playmaker type at WR--something that we desperately need given the loss of Kevin Norrel.  Then, of course, we have to wait and see about Mr. Buckley as well as another unnamed JC DT that is supposedly waiting in the wings.  Finally, we need to see whether or not Mizell makes it to campus.  If he does, as expected, then the rebuilding project on defense will be complete: 

(a) We will have a completely revamped defensive line with guys who are physically ready to compete with the big boys.

(b) We will have replaced painfully slow linebackers with guys who can hit, run, and make plays.

(c)  We will have added much needed speed to what has been a HORRIBLE defensive backfield.

(d) We will have amassed enough depth on defense to actually yield a faster and more competent group to play on special teams.

When you sum those factors together, this much is clear:  WSU figures to be, by far and away, the most improved defensive football team in the country.  Honestly, there is no one out there who will even be close.

So, as we move forward, the only real question marks for our team NOW is how that offensive line improves.  As the conference gets deeper and more experienced everyday, we're going to have to improve at a rate 2 or 3 times higher than every other team in the conference just to be competitive (in each game) next year.

Thankfully, Wulff did the smart thing by supplementing a really good group of high school kids with JC talent and a FOUR STAR LB who can play right away.

Make no mistake about it, yesterday was a GREAT day for Cougar football.  And if I'm Jim Sterk, I am thinking long and hard about giving Wulff a fifth year right about now.

Look for more from Longball, coming soon.

ENJOY YOUR DAY, and GO COUGS!



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Good work guys
written by selahcoug, February 04, 2010
Thanks for all the info. It does appear that they are really building some depth finally. My only real concern is the depth of the D-line, specifically at D-tackle. Not sure how healthy Wulfgramm and Luapo will be this year so I really do hope they still bring in a JC DT.
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written by kaddy, February 04, 2010
Interesting what Cleveland's family said about all the negativity on the blogs, which apparently affected his decision.
Which interview did they cite blogs as influencing their decision?
written by SeanHawk, February 04, 2010
Kaddy, I saw the one interview where Cleveland committed back on 1/23. Is that the one you are referring to?
Another perspective
written by Chris '04, February 04, 2010
I think people need to get over the fact that Cleveland switched schools at the last minute. This happens all the time to the Big Boys. In that same vain, I consider it a major positive that we were in the running for a guy like that for as long as we were. It isn't often that someone is having a hard time making a decision when it's us vs [insert big-time program with multiple national championships and smokin' hot women on beaches all year 'roud]. We didn't get the big fish this year, but I'd bet that once our fortune changes on the field we will be able to grab a few more of these guys in the future. Well, as long as we go after guys that can actually make it into school.
Re: Cleveland
written by Coug-A-Sutra, February 04, 2010
The other thing to remember is that we were bringing in two other TEs, one of which was higher rated.

So, when a more notable program comes calling and you are effectively tight end 1b, it makes sense that you would hear those devil voices (e.g. Miami's bandit coaches) much more loudly.

If there was no Dunn, then Cleveland would be a much bigger loss.

But, let us not lose sight of the fact that a four star TE DID sign with the Cougs yesterday!
Cleveland
written by sdcoug09, February 04, 2010
Its hard to fault Cleveland for wanting to go to Miami given how many quality tight ends they have produced. Also, I'm guessing he wasn't exceptionally stoked to be possibly moving to and O-Line spot when, Miami probably promised him a Tight End spot. As for the comment about the blogs, just goes to further prove that the kids, and their families, do read these, so they aren't just for our entertainment.
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written by LucasCoug, February 04, 2010
I don't see a depth issue at DLine / End, maybe a lack of quality or experienced depth is how you should look at it. That is 14 scholarship players.

Kevin Kooyman
Travis Long
Toby Turpin
Justin Clayton
Jordan Pu'u-Robinson (sp?)
Rankin
Jessy Sanchez
Pole
Luapu
Wolfgramm
Adam Coerper
Dan Spitz
Anthony Laurenzi
Casey Hamlett
"just goes to further prove that the kids, and their families, do read these, so they aren't just for our entertainment. "
written by Nuss, February 04, 2010
Which, of course, doesn't prove anything about whether it actually influences them.
Really?
written by SeanHawk, February 04, 2010
Look at the situation from 10,000 feet. Does anyone really think that a recruit chose another school because a blog posting was critical of the offense? I don't doubt what Rasmussen is saying, and he very well could just be lumping blogs and message boards together. But you guys read some of what is said out there. You wander into message board land for any school in the country or blogs as well and you are bound to find negativity. Miami is not exactly immune to this stuff either! I read some of their comments about recruiting and that sort of thing, and they are just as negative as anywhere else.

Besides, we're 3-22 the last 2 years. There's being positive, and there is being honest. Speaking for ourselves, I can honestly say we try to be both, although it can be a struggle at times. I am sure people who comment here and elsewhere feel the same way, and I imagine Nuss feels the same way at times, as do his readers.
Good stuff Sean
written by CougarMVP, February 04, 2010
Good stuff Sean. I haven't been on here in a while but great stories as always. I'm looking forward to seeing if we sign any other guys.
Blogs
written by WSU91, February 04, 2010
If blogs posts and comments are influencing a kid's decision about which school to attend, I think it says more about the kid than the blog. What we say here really shouldn't matter in the big picture. But I'm speaking like a 40 year old who didn't grow up with the Internet.
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written by kaddy, February 04, 2010
It was Rasmussen's quote, I guess. I think he said blogs, but meant message boards. Who knows if it really was part of the reason, but that's the feedback his family gave to our staff.
Kicker/Punter
written by Jake_cougs, February 04, 2010
The daily Evergreen reported today that we actually have two kicker/punters that are enrolling in the fall and were asked to come in as walk ons. There is another linebacker that is doing the same too. I don't know about both but I read that one of the kickers (Furney) was one of the White Chip recruits on the Seattle Times list. I say this because you were talking about balance and mentioned that "Aside from signing a kicker or punter, they covered pretty much everywhere else"
Thanks Jake
written by SeanHawk, February 04, 2010
I knew I saw something recently about a kicker or punter to walk on, but I couldn't remember where I saw it or who it was. So, the day was even BETTER than we thought!
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written by LucasCoug, February 04, 2010
Yeah the Kicker and Punter are supposed to be good. I think those are positions that need to earn a scholie. Peanut was a waste of 1/85 for four years!
Off-topic
written by Soze, February 04, 2010
Pardon the language, but WHY THE FUCK IS THE COUGAR BASKETBALL GAME NOT TELEVISED!?!? Jesus fucking Christ, FSN, there is more to the state of Washington than the University of.
Deep breaths...
written by Soze, February 04, 2010
Not sure why I posted that here, honestly. Its not like FSN is going to read it. I guess I just needed to get it off my chest. Please disregard.
FSNW
written by sdcoug09, February 04, 2010
Will be renamed FSUW/GU, since they only televise those games, unless they are not playing.
It disappoints me that WSU can't provide anything tv/radio feeds without having to pay. Since I'm out of the area, I can't even get a radio feed.
Good blog
written by Portland Coug, February 04, 2010
I read your work every day and thanks for signing day coverage. My I.T. rats havent caught on that your website should be blocked at work. I cant get ESPN or Cougfan or even dawgman or the awful duck sites at work so I was glued here all day.

What coach rass said needs to be taken with a boulder grain of salt. AC parents probably mentioned the message board or blog post to him or other coaches and it stuck out to them. I cannot fathom a player decided on college based on that unless it was some awful racist shit or something and I know we are called rednecks but I have not seen anything like that at WSU sites. But What makes me tired is the coaches and AD look to make excuses all the time and it is never their fault when something goes bad. From the former coaches leaving Wulff with bad players to losing recruits because of fans online it seems like they are looking to always deflect blame. I have worked with people like that before where everything that goes wrong is always someone elses fault. They typically dont last long as management finally catches on that no, you have responsibility and need to claim some of it. End of rant, go COUG'S!
RB Coach
written by VikingCoug, February 04, 2010
Is it true that our running back coach is leaving for ASU?
RE: RB Coach and Soze
written by Coug-A-Sutra, February 04, 2010
Viking Coug:

yes, Bruiser is leaving his almae mater to go see Denny in the desert. curious move, since Dennis is going to get fired after next season.

In the meantime, we're working hard to find out who might be a legit replacement.

Re: Soze. Your f-bombs are always welcome here, brother.

Share your same sentiment.

Thought that when we made it 53-57 that we were going to pull another USC.

Bottom line: We don't play defense.

Could be in dead last by Saturday night.
About Bruiser
written by ptowncoug, February 05, 2010
This is indeed a curious move and it cannot be talked about enough. I was just talking someone out of taking a ASU FB gig stating that the writing is on the wall for an Erickson firing and unless he wanted to move a couple of times in the next year then not to go near it.
Bruiser
written by SeanHawk, February 05, 2010
Ptown, I agree that it isn't good. Plus there is talk that Bishop Sankey's family got to know Bruiser pretty well. Here's hoping we aren't getting set up for a tug-o-war over an impressive kid like that.

Did you hear that Wulff mentioned on the radio at halftime of last nights hoop game that Bruiser's wife had trouble getting a job in Pullman, but there is an opportunity in Tempe. I hate to rumor-monger and I didn't hear the quote myself, but I was curious if you or anyone else caught that.
Bruiser
written by norcalcoug, February 06, 2010
Hey I love my cougs, but I gotta say, I don't think there's any more risk in bruiser going to ASU than there is staying in pullman. Both teams need to get results on the field, and I'd say the cougs have much further to climb than the devils.

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