Observations from Saturday...
Written by Longball   
Sunday, 28 February 2010 16:34

Amieable Wins Again!

Amieable wins again, Booooo!

It was another wildly entertaining Senior Night on the Palouse, but this time round, the Cougs could not pull out the victory for the near sell-out crowd. From my usual perch way up in the cheap seats, it was an electric big-game atmosphere.  But in the end the raucous crowd was left to file out of Beasley with our collective tails between our legs after enduring the requisite Venoy Overton jersey popping parade of classlessness, the purple faithful woofing their approval from the rafters and the fulfillment of Quincy Pondexter's guarantee of victory.

Read on for more...

I'll get to my actual basketball-related thoughts shortly, but first I want to talk about what it looked and felt like inside Beasley Coliseum on Saturday. As I said before, the atmosphere was great and I believe the crowd was a major factor in helping the Cougs overcome their 14 point halftime deficit and cruise to a lead mid-way through the 2nd half. Things started off with the reinstated tradition of turning down the lights for the pre-game fan fare. This time a drum-line along the student sideline banged out a cadence to Glenn Johnson's announcement of the starting lineup. It was by far the best pre-game I have seen all year, and the energy it created in the crowd carried over well into the tip-off. Of course the Cougs proceeded to suck the life out of the building by shooting 18% in the first half.

In the second half the crowd rebounded along with the team and at the height of the Cougs comeback bid, it got downright LOUD. There was a big assist from Bill Moos, who while the Cougars were getting their halftime speech in the locker room, delivered one to the crowd. Then a bunch of karate kids from Spokane came out and nun-chucked, judo-chopped and flying kicked their way to a huge ovation.

There is no doubt a lot of the energy in the building was due to the opponent. I must admit, when I see those purple jerseys on our floor it awakens something primal in me and I don't need a lot of fanfare to get fired up. But despite the unique circumstances of a rivalry game I still think this is what Beasley should be like every night. Unfortunately we can't play the Huskies every night, so it is going to take some vastly improved play to inspire the kind of fan support we saw Saturday. Ken Bone commented recently that he'd like to see a little better crowd support. Well, coach, when you are drawing around 7K fans to watch the last place team in the Pac-10, you really don't have much to complain about.

Now about the basketball stuff; is anyone else out there as embarrassed as me that we spent all that time complaining about being picked 8th in the Pac-10 this pre-season and now we are in LAST PLACE? What a waste of breath that was. Now don't get me wrong, I don't actually believe the "experts" were right. I stand by my conviction that this is not an 8th place team and certainly not a last place team or worse. I have seen a lot of Cougar teams in person since George Raveling was patrolling the sidelines and the cold hard truth is that this is one of the most talented teams we have had, and it is competing in one of the weakest Pac-10's ever. So, yeah, if you are asking me; this season is a complete disaster. So, this is what it feels like to be a UW, or Oregon and have the players, but not the results (seriously, can we stop making fun of Ernie Kent now?).

Unlike some folks, I am not going to provide any cover for coach Bone here. There are no excuses for what has transpired on the court. We are simply a team with a lot of talent that does nothing well on a basketball court. No excuse for that. We are a gawd-awful defensive team, and that's a bitter pill to swallow after the pride we took in our tenacious D during the Bennett years. But the spoon full of sugar to help that pill go down was supposed to be a more exciting, effective and entertaining offense. Well, that sure didn't happen. We are dreadful, in fact, unwatchable on offense. No, the "flashes of brilliance" don't count for me, sorry. Inconsistency = crappy. In other words, you do not get any credit for a decent offensive half of basketball when the other half was so poor you have no chance of winning the game.

It is a monumental failure that at this stage of the season we completely lack any identity as a team (except that we can't hold leads and we can't play for 40 minutes). It is a further failure that our best player, and a one time conference POY candidate, has regressed to the point where he is an offensive liability. In fact, is anyone on this team improving? Is anyone really "coming along?"

Now there was a point during the first half of Saturday's game (and during the entire UCLA game) where I would have volunteered to pack Coach Bones duffel bag and drive him to the airport myself, but that's the passion of a fan in the heat of the moment. The truth is, I don't think Bone is a bad coach, or that this is a lost cause. I believe coaches have learning curves just like players and that their failures are the foundations of their successes if they choose to learn from them. I'm just saying that this season is a major failure for coach Bone, and we'll see what, if anything is learned from it. In the meantime, here we are... in last place.

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Substitution Patterns and Working the Room
written by On3Lung, February 28, 2010
The biggest question I have after the last two home games is about subs. When anybody without the initials KT makes a mistake (bad pass, mishandle, take a bad shot, etc.) they are yanked at the next dead ball to think about their misdeed. Yet if your initials are KT you can throw the ball away with impunity and take bad shot after bad shot with no repercussions. I don't get that. Also, I really liked the energy James Watson brought to the floor last night.

Away from the hoops, Bill Moos certainly knows how to work a room. His speech was well timed, well delivered, and hit all the right notes.
you are right.
written by VikingCoug, March 01, 2010
We are a inconsistent team. And while our players are great we are lack-luster. Watching on tv I was about to cry seeing the cougs shoot only 18 %. This is especially dissappointing when I was looking forward to the season to make up for football. Now I have to hope beyond hope the cougs are at least a competetive team to make up for this. SOS moos! SOS!
shots
written by Coug Banker, March 01, 2010
I was at the game on Saturday and excitedly sat at the cougs end of the court under the basket! From a shot selection point of view and the way the shots looked coming out of their hands, the shots looked great. Most of the shots that missed in the first half looked as though they should have gone in, they simply looked like good attempts. From the Fuskies though, they had terrible, flailing put-backs that somehow always went in during the 1st half.

As for Moos, he did a great job firing up the crowd at the half and then Casto did a great job getting excited after several layin's that got the crowd even more fired up! Too bad the classless Fuskies were ahead as time expired...
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written by JasonUW, March 01, 2010
Why do you guys keep saying we are classless? The game looked clean from my point of view. Just curious.
UW is Classless
written by Coug-A-Sutra, March 01, 2010
Jason:

The game itself was hard fought and clean. And I agreed with your earlier view about how the calls balanced themselves out--Casto should have been called for over-the-back on at least two occasions.

And certainly, the no-call under the basket when Capers was held was horrible, but the reason for the call had much more to do with the ref being out of position than it was "letting the kids play."

As I also noted, Overton was special on Saturday and played MUCH more under control than I have ever seen him. He was GREAT.

But the tongue wagging and jersey popping on the road is just lame. And it is classless. And it is something that is CLEARLY a UW habit.

Granted, our kids did some of the same at your place, and shame on them for doing so.

But, if you look at our win @SC earlier in the year as well as Zona and you had a bunch of kids who simply bumped each other and danced around for themselves.

Your boys on the other hand make it routine to do the showboat stuff at home and on the road--which is classless and lame (and you can see that Lo does NOTHING to curtail it).

Moreover, for a team that is probably (but they still could--as an AT LARGE) not going to make the NCAAs in a bad league, understanding your place is important--which makes the showboating even worse.

Thankfully, you'll find that place real soon.

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written by Soze, March 01, 2010
Ehh, I thought IT sticking his tongue out and holding out his "WASHINGTON" jersey towards the crowd was a little classless, but it is a rivalry game, so I let that shit slide. Just made me turn the game off before I saw anything further... smilies/smiley.gif
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written by Longball, March 01, 2010
As time expired Overton took a jersey popping lap in front of the student section and flashed a bunch of gestures. Not unlike after a certain apple cup when Husky players actually scaled the rails in front of the student section to taunt the students with their NW champs shirts. Then they act all shocked when that kind of garbage provokes a response, like a water bottle being thrown at them. Overton has no clue what "class" even means and in all his years Romar and Co. have shown no interest in teaching him. He's a punk, just own it.
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written by JasonUW, March 01, 2010
Really, though?? A few jersey pops and you are ready to label the entire program classless? If you take off your rivalry glasses, I think you would see it differently. Overton has never (NEVER) thrown a punch or physically assaulted a player. Lots of basketball players talk crap a tongue wag and jersey pop in a hostile environment is hardly over the line.

Calling a program and a coach classless is a pretty severe indictment. I would ask you to look at players like Arizona's Kevin Parrom. He is more warranted of your ire, even if he doesn't wear Purple and Gold.
Then Don't Ask
written by Coug-A-Sutra, March 01, 2010
Jason:

Overton is known for being a dirty player and there's no way to rebut that. However, on Saturday, I saw none of that--which is why I went out of my way to praise his performance and effort.

Now, is Lo a classless coach? I don't think so. But, kids don't get away with the crap that you see from UW in upper echelon programs--even in the days of Tark.

So, if you don't want to hear the truth about your boys, then please, spare us all and don't ask for our thoughts. (I think we've been beyond fair about the game and your teams strengths.)

Go away now.
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written by WallaCoug, March 01, 2010
JasonUW,

Because we are sore losers that's why!

Plus you guys just are!smilies/wink.gif
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written by Longball, March 01, 2010
Come on JasonUW, you're better then that. You know with Overton it is much more than a couple jersey poppings and you definitley know he's the biggest cheap shot artist in the Pac-10. In fact i've never seen a worse one. I know delusion runs deep in Husky land, but you're sounding pretty foolish now.
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written by sdcoug09, March 01, 2010
Reputations and stereotypes don't just appear. I don't think its Romar's fault. Its the culture of UW athletics. Look at Jerramy Stevens and everything he did and still had the full support of the athletic department. At most any other school, a player would have been kicked for half of his infractions (see Andy Roof). The perceptions of a school's athletics start at the top especially with the AD and Dean. UW just seems to tolerate so much more.
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written by JasonUW, March 01, 2010
Longball,

Trust me on this one, Kevin Parrom is much, much worse. Arizona State fans almost charged the court after a horribly blantant elbow in their game a few weeks ago.

In UW's defense, they haven't popped their jerseys (which apparently is a felony now) against any other team. It's simply due to the rivalry and a hostile crowd. I don't think it's necessary, but hardly an offense worthy of any discussion. If Quincy had shoved Watson to the ground they way he did to him in the first matchup, you would be calling for his head.

I, for one, am happy that we will probably on the other side of the Pac-10 tourney bracket. I wouldn't want to play Klay again as he will break his slump soon.
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written by JasonUW, March 01, 2010
I would also throw Jorge Gutierrez in the discussion. But yes, Overton has a spot on the Scrappy 1st Team.
Popping jerseys
written by Soze, March 01, 2010
No, not a felony. Just classless. I'd say the same thing if we did it at Hec-Ed. A la Reggie Moore sticking his tongue out after the dunk in Seattle. It was classless. And I'll be honest with you, I'm not sure Bone is the type of coach that is going to be teaching "class."
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written by Longball, March 01, 2010
I must admit, in a post that was largely about how Coach Bone has not done a great job this year, I didn't expect the conversation to be dominated by a single comment about Overton's post game celebration. So let's get this conversation back on track, shall we? What do people think of the job Bone has done? Is it to be expected that we are in last place? Is ti more Youth and and "new system" then anything else?
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written by stiffmiester, March 01, 2010
We also have to factor in all the frosh playing key roles, whether true or redshirt, and the infamous "wall". True we did not see the clamp down D we are used to but maybe traitor Tony saw this inconsistent play from talented but young players coming and found Virginia such a sweet deal. BTW I don't like Overton and he IS the cheap shot artist he's been made out to be. Only thing I can say to that is I remember one other player that hailed from a certain Spokane college that made a living in the League from under handed D, John Stockton. He didn't pop his jersey like a punk though.
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written by kaddy, March 01, 2010
Longball - I thought Amiable was coming around on the Cougars?? What's she doing with that tremendously ugly hat on? Please tell me that is an old picture.
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written by Longball, March 01, 2010
Stiff, you're right, stockton was dirty with a capitol D!

Kaddy - Amieable is a proud alum (with honors!) from UW, so at apple cup time that is where her loyalties fall, as they should. She will soon be a newly minted alum of Wazzu as well, and she has classes and labs with Coug players so she supports them too.
Talk about classless - what is up with that hat?
written by amieable, March 01, 2010
Kaddy, the minute I clicked on this blog today I wanted to kill Longball because while a Husky I may be at Apple Cup, that is indeed a tremendously ugly hat. It was taken back in 2007 in a sports store in Spokane. We were intentionally trying on ugly hats. Usually my UW wear is more understated and I usually am classier than Overton.

Who, yes, come on is a punk. A sometimes brilliant defender who gets the job done but he even makes me cringe. I love it whenever he fouls he always has the "who me?" look on his face. It's the same one our cat makes when she craps on the floor.

Given this is a WSU blog I admire Sutra for at least admitting Overton played a good game. But you can't expect these guys to like Venoy!

Speaking of class, Friday in front of the library the newly created Sigma Nu boys had a car painted in UW colors that they were all beating with hammers while playing loud music. James Watson walked by and the Sigma Nu guys implored him to come over and take a swing. Watson showed some class and kept on walking.
How can YOU be upset at that pic?
written by Longball, March 01, 2010
I'm the one sporting about 15 chins like Jabba the Hut.
Bone
written by sdcoug09, March 01, 2010
There was all this talk of a fast-paced, high scoring offense. The best part was we have the athletes to do that. I expected growing pains early in the year with the new coach, new system and young team. At this point in the season those issues should be pretty much rendered moot. We can't shoot 18% and not play good defense, we'll never win a game. With Bennett, we could shoot 18% but the score would still be really close. Its frustrating to know that we have one of the most talented teams in the league but are in last place. I have to agree with Longball in his analysis. It does not seem we have improved at all, in fact, it looks like we've regressed substantially. I realize we're playing better opponents every game, but some of the performances are not acceptable on any level. The whole team needs to get it together, this team is too talented to be playing this poorly.
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written by Soze, March 01, 2010
Regarding the team, I honestly don't know what the problem is. I'm hoping it has more to do with the young guys hitting the wall (the sophomores didn't have these types of roles/minutes/expectations last year) and less to do with Bone's coaching ability. Its definitely been a disappointment, but it was EXACTLY what I expected. New coach, young players, new system. I expected a 9-10th place finish, regardless of talent. The real question, like the football team, is how we react this off-season and next year.
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written by sdcoug09, March 02, 2010
http://blog.oregonlive.com/pac..._prof.html

This is what the clock operator is supposed to do when you're at home and made the game winning basket...let time run out.
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written by kaddy, March 02, 2010
Amieable - I have never met anyone who has spent any significant time in Pullman, that has not switched allegiances 100%, so I'll be keeping close tabs on you.

I went to high school with one of the most obnoxious husky fans on the planet - he went to WSU for his junior and senior years, and has done a total 180. One of the biggest Cougar fans I know.

Godspeed.

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