Monday, November 26, 2007

Buh-Bye

Before we get to all the blather, first and foremost, a big thank you and shout out to Ole Bill.



Without question, the guy put his heart and soul into the program. Moreover, when you think about how he handled his wife's illness during a gut-wrenching 4-7 campain (that was ssssssooo close to a 9-2 season), and you have to tip your hat to the man. He really is a class act.

But today was about standing up and saying that 11-23 (or whatever it was in the conference over the past four years) was not acceptable--especially coming off three consecutive 10 win seasons. And so, in that way, you can say that WSU can no longer be considered a doormat program.

From the continuous academic casualties, to the lack of recruiting, to the fall of the D (before he took it back), to the relentless defense of the Big Apple, Doba put loyalty before Ws. And that is why he lost his job. In this case, the nice guy finished last.

What IS surprising is the apperant news that ALL of the Assistants are gone. WOW!

And because of that, you can expect that the announcement of a new Head Coach will be days away (not weeks). NO ONE cleans house completely unless someone else is coming in right quick. They have someone in mind, no doubt about it.

So, give us your comments and thoughts, but here's mine:



We've come full circle.

30 comments:

Sedihawk said...

This is a shock, based on what we had heard this AM. I would have bet the mortgage payment on Doba staying, but things can change quickly, and clearly it did.

I would venture to say that Doba was probably told Ok, you can stay for the remainder of your deal, but, uh, you need to make some changes on the staff. And knowing who Doba is and the man of principle from another era, he probably "hell with you" and "I'll take the retirement package behind door number 2, thank you."

To Dobes, I say thank you for all that you did. You were put in a tough spot from the day you took this job, one that you never tried to go out and get, and then you got criticized for not being a COY candidate once it became a pure Doba program. You did what you thought was right, you held firmly to your belief system of running a clean program, but sadly, you were a bit over your head and probably too loyal to your assistants. Hey, we'll always have 2003. What a year that was! :)

To president Floyd, I say THANK YOU for deciding that mediocrity and a flat-out failure to compete against your pac-10 foes wasn't the thing to fire up the fan base, even if you did just beat your arch rival. You are known as a very decisive individual, and clearly you weren't totally swayed just because we won the AC. But you also realize you have another $40 million to go on a renovation that is crucial to remaining in the pac-10 (believe it).

Whether Sterk wanted this or not, and there have been STRONG rumors that this is Floyd's call all the way, it at least shows he cares. He wants this team to be a contender, and if he doesn't see it happening with Doba and staff, then the change must be made.

Divorces are never easy and rarely a clean break, and this one will be no exception. You hope everyone handles it with grace and class, but there will likely be a few jabs when it's all over.

Artist formerly known as Brinkhater is right, the replacement is going to come quickly. It has to at this point. And if what we've been told is true, there's a TON of big-spending alumni support of you-know-who riding back to town and righting a wrong that happened the day he took the Alabama job. We'll speculate on candidates (Gregory/Michalczik, Wulff, Hauck among others), but the back-room deal might already be done. REUNITED and it feels so good??

Σ (Rtist4merlyKnownAsBrinkHtr) said...

It'll feel good to have Price back. It really will..

Ask the Beav fans what its been like to have Reilly back. Some heartache to be sure, but Price WILL bring back the every three years formula.

Just think, in 2011, we'll be pretty good.

Anonymous said...

It's not MP that I'm aware of, but I haven't confirmed anything. However, MP wouldn't require a house cleaning because IMHO he has some of his own to do down in El Paso.
Remember when MP left he wanted Doba as HC and left Levy to be next in line. I have a feeling it might be one of the CAL guys, but MP does love Wazzu and always has, so nothing is out of the realm of possibility. I just don't see it.
Ptowncoug

Nuss said...

One thing is undeniable: Jim Sterk has done an awesome job of hiring coaches when given the chance to hire his own guys.

My guess is that you're right -- this move didn't come without another strong candidate lined up. And don't be surprised if it's someone that seems a little out of left field. That seems to be Sterk's style, and he has a knack for getting the guy that's right for the job.

I think it all adds up to no Mike Price. I think that ship has sailed.

(PS -- sorry about the comment on the previous post. I didn't see this post yet!)

Σ (Rtist4merlyKnownAsBrinkHtr) said...

Nuss:

You are dead right about Levy and Yarno...They are GREAT.

If its Price, then Levy goes because Eric would become the O-Coordinator and Levy would probably not take a demotion to receivers coach, but who knows?

Its gonna be someone special, though, because with the buy-out in tow PLUS a new coaching salary PLUS the stadium renovation, our four man version of the Tyee club must be TOTALLY on board with this one.

That's why I say its Price.

Stay tuned.

Anonymous said...

Price is on the list. Big money in the program wants Price back and big money is what we need .

Sedihawk said...

Ptown, are you hearing some grapevine stuff?

MattMcMullen said...

Price would be a disaster. Does no one remember all the November collapses. The 3-9 record in the Apple Cups. Levy needs to be gone as well. Every other program in the Pac-10 has an NFL quality staff (except AZ) and we are still running Jim Sweeny's spread offense from the 70's pretending that DC's are confused by trips left. If you want a coach with Cougar ties...Mike Zimmer. 10+ years NFL Defensive Coordinator; worked under Bill Parcells in Dallas; about to be unemployed when Petrino gets canned by the Falcons.

longball said...

Well i am very excited to break the news to you guys that i have just been hired as the new coach of the Washington State Cougars football team. My first order of business is to make like a service acadamy and start running the wishbone option. The PAc-10 wont know what hit them.

Ptown, I'd like you to be my QB coach and recruiting coordinator.

On a serious note, why are people so high on Levy? Everyone bags on Rosie every chance they get but as a QB coach, Gesser, Kegel and Brink are fairly prolific students of his. I know he gets the blame for play calling and choosing Brink over Swogs, but like i said, Levy is the O-coordinator which makes me wonder where the hell does the buck stop?

Anonymous said...

I think the answer with Levy is that the one consistent in this program has been the receiver play, especially of late. Did they get the dropsies some, yes, but the receivers are head and shoulders above any unit in the past five years.

Levy to the best of my knowledge, even as OC does not call plays, that's Rosie.

Gesser didn't play under Rosey. Did Kegal for one year? Or was Rosey's first year Brink's freshman year?

Coug97

Sedihawk said...

Rosie came in '03, so yes, Kegel played under Rosie. In fact, I remember vividly Kegel RAVING about Rosey's coaching, and how great it was to learn the position from him, all the little things about being successful in the one-back offense, etc. And given the overall success Brink had in his career, given Brink's level of talent? I'd love to see Rosey get a fresh start with a talented QB and no political BS to deal with. But we'll see. I still think like Cougfan is saying, that yes, right NOW anyway the assistants are let go, but it's likely that some will be retained and might even be out on the road recruiting.

Man, this is a crucial time. The nature of this staff was to offer as late as possible after doing their homework and letting kids play out their senior years. That practice might really make this class almost impossible to bail out. They need to move quickly.

Σ (Rtist4merlyKnownAsBrinkHtr) said...

Levy always recruited pretty darn well for us and ALWAYS coached receivers up. One way to gauge that is to see how prolific we've been offensively with basically ZERO guys graduating to play at all in the NFL.

I think he will be missed.

Like we've noted, it is very peculiar to abandon all established recruiting ties (by firing the whole staff) unless someone else who has them is in tow.

Kasey Dunn anyone?

Wilma Fingerdoo said...

New Coach: Don Plowman.....enough said

Anonymous said...

Don Plowman = SELL THE FARM!

We've got Heisey, Leo, Aydelott, Allen...

Sedihawk said...

Kasey Dunn will be on the list, for sure. But did you read that Sterk said he was "turned off" by coaches that were campaigning for the job while Doba was still the head guy? And Dunn was in a story a few weeks ago saying that he'd like the WSU job.

I personally like the idea of Dunn and I'm going to do some more digging on him. I bet he gets an interview at least.

Anonymous said...

I'll take this guy, any day:

http://goeags.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/wulff_paul00.html

Pro: He's got his team in the playoffs vs. App St this week. EWU plays a wide-open entertaining brand of football. NW/Eastern WA recruiting ties. Strong WSU ties obviously, was at the WSU football dinner in Bellevue in February. Relatively young, just 40 years old. EWU known to play extremely hard, all the time. Gets the most out of his talent. Three times COY in the Big Sky.

Con: No BCS experience. 8 years as a head coach but all on lower-level Big Sky, 15 years total at EWU. Could be a lot like hiring Price from Weber St back in '89.

MattMcMullen said...

BLAAHH...Guys come on and think big. Are we a real football program in a BCS conference or not? Big Sky? former Arizona Running backs coaches? Seriously. Lets go out and get a someone who is a sure bet to come in a build a winning program. Not a roll of the dice. We should have never let Erickson go to ASU. That is a guy who will dominate the conference for years. How about Denny Green or Mike Tice

MattMcMullen said...

How about this: Norm Chow - Offensive Coor - Tennessee Titans
Who doesn't want to hire Norm Chow? Chow would be the first Asian-American head coach in the college ranks. It's believed that he prefers a Pac10 school for his first head coaching job, as he has a great feel for the conference & competition.

MattMcMullen said...

Or Bill Cowher or Barry Alvarez

Anonymous said...

Anyone know if the press conference can be heard on the internet?

tpenman said...

I'm sad for Doba, but hopefully this will turn out well for the Cougs. I am a bit concerned about the spread offense, mostly because when we run it well, we can hang with anyone which is nice considering we have a tougher time recruiting and don't have as much depth as other schools...

When is the last time a Cougar coach got fired two days after beating UW? I know there's more to it than that, but i was just curious...

Anonymous said...

Another one out there with a good track with until MSU is John L. Smith.

Anonymous said...

I don't know about Price...Juarez has a lot more strip joints than Moscow.

frenchcanadien said...

I agree mattmcmullen, if that is your real name, we need to think big though I'm not sure ex-Vikings are the right answer. Aside from Carroll NFL guys haven't faired too well in college. I do like the idea of Chow with maybe younger guy to be groomed. Like the Dick and Tony plan.

Sedihawk said...

Tempting to think big, but you also have to be realistic. We have a bunch of contracts to buy out as well as bring new guys in, and have you heard about this little thing called the stadium renovation? Like, we need another $40 MILLION to get that done? The pennies are at a premium, so, it probably could boil down to taking a chance on a young guy. But we'll see. We all have names right now, but let's let the rumor mill percolate a few days and see who the media guys dig up.

Personally I'm VERY happy that Moos is involved! Former Oregon AD of course, but also Cougar player who's living in eastern WA and has maintained good WSU ties. Be careful Sterk, he might have designs on your job....

Meanwhile I'm happy that they made a frickin' decision on this baby. They really had to do it, asap, or else recruiting was doomed!

MattMcMullen said...

Really I just want a coach with absolutely no ties to the Price-Doba coaching tree. We need a fresh approach. And the ex-NFL thing is to erronious to comment on other than to mention Riley, Carroll, Erickson in the Pac-10 right now

Zimmer or Chow in '08

k3po said...

Rtist.... You did a helluva sales job on Bob Gregory a few weeks back....are you off of the band wagon? When I saw that picture of Mike Price I had a deja vu experience of Dennis Erickson arriving 8 miles east a few years back. Maybe Sterk should drive over to Moscow for some counseling to see if that is a good idea.

frenchcanadien said...

Right no ties to Doba/Price. A completely different approach is needed. I'm not so worried about ties to the northwest as much as I'd rather see ties to California or Texas for recruiting purposes. An NFL pedigree I believe is more important for some of the staff members, not as much for the head coach.

Anonymous said...

Here is the write-up on Gregory back on 10/19. Looks good to me:

http://wsufootball.blogspot.com/2007/10/hot-assistant-coach-profile-1-bob.html

Sedihawk said...

Raw video of Price today commenting about WSU job:

http://www.kvia.com/global/story.asp?s=7411008

Click on the "raw video" link to the left. It's a little long, but he does say he talked to Doba twice in the last 48 hours. Says he hasn't spoken to WSU though. Hmm, isn't Doba on the search committee? And didn't Price say he wasn't going anywhere, yet 48 hours later turned up in Tuscaloosa? We'll see.